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Posted by jay on March 07, 2005 at 06:26:54:

In Reply to: Re: Attacks in Ukraine increased posted by Mike on March 07, 2005 at 03:46:24:

I actually only bought up the topic because peple in many forums discussing about the black diplomat who was attacked, and I think they are making a big deal over it. Yes, its a known fact that non whites are not loved by majority of popuilation. Same in Poland and other new EU countries. But foreigners in general are open to attack, more so then locals for some of the reasons I mentioned before. We(not me :)) stand out more and put ourselves in situations where we are more likely to be a victim(it also seems alot aof foreigners a country slickers who wouldd probably be victimized in any large city :)). yes, port cities also always have a large criminal element. Actually ,I heard the young Turks sometimes start fights and have there own gangs.
Another focus of my previous post is the viciousness off these attacks, like I said they hit first and then hit again. Evidently, Kiev is known for break ins. Someone tried to break into my apt near us embassy but thanks for second door. Also another guy, Brit ,I worked with was folloed home(same area ,2002) ,he naped on his couch(intoxicated), woke up to a bunch of guys hovering over him on his couch. Thank god they only took what they want and left. Then there is other guys who were tied up in there apts and tortured(hot iron,ouch) but this method I have not heard about in long time. Peace corps guy was murdered in Chernigov yrs ago and I read another person killed in Krivoy Rog last yr(german or australian). My boss apt broke into twice. The list goes on. Do not let them know where you are staying.
Odessa is famous for there pickpocketers. My mom in law was pickpocketed in Privoz 2 months ago and then realized she was being followed home so she went somewhere else because they would follow her to her door and well thank god. Another ukrainian female who has good job had her apt broken into in a old western prison break method. She had strong door and gates on her 1st floor window so the perps tied a rope to her gates and then to the car or truck and drove away with the gates and part of the wall so they could get in. I remember I guy in Odessa got into a taxi(maybe gypsy) and was taken outside city where a friend of the driver waited and they beat him and robbed him.I do reconnment gypsy cabs simply vbecause real ones expensive and a rip off. I once got into a car in Kiev and the guy at the end of the trip wanted more and wouldnt let me out had doors locked somehow so after like 7 minutes of broken conversation I kind of slammed his head against the windshield until he agred to open thwe door,lol. Actually, I was afraid ,but my other alternative was to grab his keys but then throw them out the slightly opened window but then maybe ha needs key open door, so I thought bad idea.


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