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Posted by Emil Jelstrup on October 03, 2001 at 17:48:44:

In Reply to: Conditions on trains Kiev to Simferopol posted by Phred on October 03, 2001 at 15:46:08:

: I am visit a friend of mine in Kyiv right now. We are planning a trip to Yalta. As far as I know this means that we either fly or take a train from Kyiv to Simferopol and arrange other transportation from there.

: My friend is telling me that the train ride is "uncomforatable". (This is her choice of English english words. Needless to say, she is Ukrainian.)

: My question to the board is, assuming that I buy a ticket in one of the better classes on the train such as a 2 or 4 berth compartment, what is the condition of the train ride?

: By the way, my working assumption is that she is really telling me that she really wants to fly rather take the train.

: I had been looking forward to taking the train because I do not do this often. However, it is hard to argue with an 18 hour train ride.

Just take the train - it's much more intersting than flying, and you'll see much of Ukraine if you take the train..

I've never had any bad experiences - the trains are quite comfortable, and it's no problem for me to sleep on the train. 16-18 hours is not a long trip in Europe's second biggest country.

You'll get a pleasant trip if you just avoid the trains, which are classified as "passazhirsky". "Skory" trains are not especially good or bad. "Firmenny" trains are the best.
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The best firmenny train (train number 012K) departs daily from Kiev Pass. 17:13,
and arrives in Simferopol pass. 09:15 next day. The travel time is 16h02min.

Another possibility is the daily skory train 28K, departure from Kiev Pass. 19:45,
arr. Simferopol Pass 13:36 next day. The travel time is 15h50min
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The fare in a good 4-berth sleeping compartment Kiev-Simferopol is US$10-15. The plane fare is about $60-100, so you save a lot of money if you take train (and I would definitely do this).

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: : I am visit a friend of mine in Kyiv right now. We are planning a trip to Yalta. As far as I know this means that we either fly or take a train from Kyiv to Simferopol and arrange other transportation from there. : : My friend is telling me that the train ride is "uncomforatable". (This is her choice of English english words. Needless to say, she is Ukrainian.) : : My question to the board is, assuming that I buy a ticket in one of the better classes on the train such as a 2 or 4 berth compartment, what is the condition of the train ride? : : By the way, my working assumption is that she is really telling me that she really wants to fly rather take the train. : : I had been looking forward to taking the train because I do not do this often. However, it is hard to argue with an 18 hour train ride. : Just take the train - it's much more intersting than flying, and you'll see much of Ukraine if you take the train.. : I've never had any bad experiences - the trains are quite comfortable, and it's no problem for me to sleep on the train. 16-18 hours is not a long trip in Europe's second biggest country. : You'll get a pleasant trip if you just avoid the trains, which are classified as "passazhirsky". "Skory" trains are not especially good or bad. "Firmenny" trains are the best. : - : The best firmenny train (train number 012K) departs daily from Kiev Pass. 17:13, : and arrives in Simferopol pass. 09:15 next day. The travel time is 16h02min. : Another possibility is the daily skory train 28K, departure from Kiev Pass. 19:45, : arr. Simferopol Pass 13:36 next day. The travel time is 15h50min : - : The fare in a good 4-berth sleeping compartment Kiev-Simferopol is US$10-15. The plane fare is about $60-100, so you save a lot of money if you take train (and I would definitely do this).

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