Re: Carpatho-Ukr. Declared Independence In 1939

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Posted by Magyarrusynslovakroman on March 21, 2001 at 16:08:30:

In Reply to: Re: Carpatho-Ukr. Declared Independence In 1939 posted by KacapoMagyarrusynslovakroman english speaking on March 21, 2001 at 10:57:14:

: : He signed the permission to set up the concentration camp in Dumen-Rakhovo and in his government Galitsian Nazi guys made the list of Jewish-fellow citizens in Subcarpathia for eventual deportation.

: Any country has a list of their citizens.
:: Yes, but not targeted to a particular ethnic group. Perhaps, in Czarist Russia it was O.K., but not in democratic countries such as Czechoslovakia. The aim was to confiscate Jewish properties. These guys were interested with wealthy Jews and implemented the policy of confiscation. They were also known as ARIZATORY. These type of anti-Semitic policy was formulated and implemented in Slovakia (Tiso's government), Hungary (later than Slovakia) and other countries. In Subcarpathia, the Voloshin's government was short-lived, the policy was formulated but not implemented.

: This is not a crime.
::Crime was that those individuals who were for the democratic-liberal Czechoslovakia and opposed Voloshin and his government were just sent to the concentration camp Dumen-Rakhovo. One should compete with opponents at a ballot box and should not jail them because they are political rivals of different political orientation. In the First Czechoslovak Republic of T.G. Masaryk these principles were very clear, well known and implemented in practice. And it worked very effectively. Ukrainians, you have been learning it very painfully in the last 10 years. And there is still a long way to go. Let's hope that in 2050 you'll be there where was Czechoslovakia in 1930.

: : Hungarian annexation of Subcarpathia interrupted this process of organized extermination of Jewish population and that's why not Rusyns, but Hungarians are responsible for the Holocaust in Subcarpathia that occurred in 1944.

: So the Hungarian government is responsible for the extermination, but not the Ukrainian one.
::: If you have on mind Voloshin's Carpatho-Ukraine the answer is Hungarian government and not Voloshin's one because the latter lasted few months. As pointed out above, the Voloshin government did not put anything in practice because it was very short-lived. In addition, Rusyns with few exceptions were not anti-Semitic. Anti-Semitism in Subcarpathia was among Hungarians and Schwaben (Germans) and mostly in larger towns not villages. The form of nationalism as known in Galitsia among Ukrainians who were originally Rusyns, was absent among Rusyns in Subcarpathia. The hypothalamus was not stimulated in Rusyns of Subcarpathia to the degree as it was among Slovak nationalists, Hungarian nationalists, Germans nationalists, Ukrainian nationalists and so on. The village centric culture prevailed among Rusyns in Subcarpathia, Rusyns were passive and, moreover, they were controlled by Hungarian authorities. (Eichman personally was involved in the deportation of Jews from Subcarpathian Rus (Karpataja) and this territory was designated as Zone 1. It occurred in May-June 1944 and Eichman was sitting in Budapest at that time and overseeing the whole operation.)
On the other hand people of Denmark who were so civilized that could fully grasp the Hitler's barbarism, consciously acted against the Holocaust. Hypothalamus in Danish people was controlled by cortex.
P.S. The deportation of people with Jewish heritage in Hungary started after Hitler's occupation of this country. In contrast, Slovakia was the only country in Europe where deportation of Jews took place in absence of Hitler's military presence.





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