Posted by Yanko on March 31, 2000 at 16:45:09:
In Reply to: Re: Language Debate to Ihor Solovey-Yanko posted by Joe on March 31, 2000 at 14:48:18:
>>It is very good that democracy advanced so much in Ukraine that students are not obligated to welcome the President of Ukraine. It is better to study in a school and not to stand along the road with flags for hours.
If this is supposed to be a joke, your humor sounds rather dumb to me.
>>Ukraine should do something about Ukrainians in Czech and Slovak Republics who are involved in drugs, alcohol and crime.
Ukraine should do a lot of other things, too. Hardly anyone needs your advice on this point.
>>Who is evil, Russia? You never heard about it that 78% of adult citizens voted for autonomy.
Yes, that was exactly my statement.
>>This is a crime against democracy and a number of politicians of your country should be in jail for this.
Care to put them in jail?
>>Slava Ukraini!!!
Heroiam slava!
: Regarding ECMI in Flenssburg (Germany), OBSCE in Haag (Holland), you as well as other Ukrainian citizens have to learn about these European institutions
I don't think I HAVE TO learn about them. Last time I read the Ukrainian constitution, nothing like that was mentioned there.
: Would you be so kind to expand on "sumnivajusj ze mnoho zakarpatcju pudozrjuvut pro tuto" what do you mean?
This means that nobody knows, and those who do apparently do not care.
>> Fr. Duchnovych was "Panslav"
Which is nothing but another word for "moskvofil".
>>Rusyns have had a very tough life and one of the reasons is that there were always some individuals willing to spit at him.
I don't spit at him. In no way does he represent me, either.
: Was Mr. Bendera a prisoner in a Nazi Concentration Camp?
Not sure about concentration camps, but he spent a lot of time in nazi prisons.
>>See your original statement. You are trying to put your words in my mouth. You stated that you have a theory about "prekid'kyv" not me.
Well, apparently your understanding of Ukrainian is quite poor indeed. What I meant, and what was well illustrated by my example, I think, is that people served in nazi concentration camps because they were scumbags and not because they were nationalists.
>> Regarding "realnost'" I have to tell you that I was more lucky than you. My parents had a good grasp of "realnost'" already in 1945.
Don't quite understand the thought.
>>I wish and hope you are less offended by using my slang "what" instead of "whom", since it relates to Rusyns and not Ukrainians.
Was it another attempt at a joke? Tough luck today, Joe.
>>I hope that Russians in Ukraine will not adapt the same attitude towards Ukrainian language as you did towards Rusyn one. They can use the same argument as you do.
No, they can't. There is a pretty clear notion of what the norm of the Ukrainian language is. As for Rusyn language, you could see, I guess, that my Rusyn language is pretty far from the version in question. So is the Rusyn language of the folks from all over Transcarpathia, as I know virtually every corner of the latter. Therefore, for my children to study that imported Rusyn language of yours would be as good as to study in Slovak itself. Not that Slovak is not studied in Transcarpathia. It's just that this is NOT our mother tongue.
>>I wish that Rusyns would be so shrewd as French and so careful and rational as Swiss
And I prefer that Rusyns stay so shrewd as Rusyns and so careful and rational as Rusyns.
>>You know, one wise man told me that if Karl Marx would write "Kapital" in English ...
I don't quite get your point. I think the nonsense here is what your wise man told you.