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: Ukraine to Diaspora: Lighten Up
: By Glen Willard
: Two print items caught my eye last week. Together they brought
: some thoughts I've had in my head for some time to the fore again.
: The items both concerned language usage. Specifically, the
: widespread use of the Russian language in independent Ukraine.
: One item was an article in the very entertaining and well read
: magazine WHAT'S ON titled " So, Like, How About Speaking
: Ukrainian". The second item was a letter to the editor in the KYIV
: POST. Both items appear to have been written by Ukrainian
: diaspora. Both items clearly were taking Russian speaking
: Ukrainians to task for not speaking in Ukraine's official tongue.
: What brought this to the fore for me is that (1) I've seen similar
: articles and items in the two years I've lived in Kyiv; and (2) some
: observations I've made in those same two years about Ukrainian
: diaspora.
: Before I start however, a disclaimer of sorts. First, I'm from a family
: reputed to be of Scot-Irish ancestry. Actually. I don't think I'd want to
: delve too far into the subject. Suffice it to say that I'm American with
: no discernible Ukrainian blood and, I think, no axes to grind.
: Most of the Ukrainians I know here in Kyiv are young or relatively
: young. Virtually all speak Russian as they communicate with each
: other and in society. I think most are proud Ukrainians and are
: happy to live in independent Ukraine. I somehow don't think most
: are ashamed of other Ukrainians who speak Ukrainian. I have
: noticed some young people who move to Kyiv and begin
: immediately to attempt to learn better Russian. From this I don't
: read anything unpatriotic. Maybe just a desire to communicate as
: their new peers do.
: Now. I believe it to be a desirable objective to spread the use of the
: Ukrainian language. Programs that encourage its use over time
: will eventually be successful. In the long haul I think this likely. But,
: history tells me that 350 or so years of attempted Russification of
: these lands called Ukraine can't be overcome overnight. Also, I
: understand, that statistics show that slightly over 20% of the
: population of Ukraine are Russian.
: Now. To the Diaspora (capital D this time). Why is it that I get the
: feeling that many disapora have a superior attitude when dealing
: with their native brethren? Is it just me that see this?
: Somehow I don't think disapora Ukrainians are more intelligent or,
: even, necessarily better educated than Ukrainians. I suspect that
: some diaspora, having been taught in diaspora schools in the
: U.S., Canada, or elsewhere, may speak a technically more correct
: Ukrainian than many Ukrainians. I'm confident that most diaspora
: are far wealthier and have far more disposable income than typical
: Ukrainians. I'm also confident that most diaspora that today visit
: Ukraine (and I mean visit, even though the visits are sometimes
: lengthy) have never lived under a totalitarian government. Maybe
: some of their grandparents did. But, everyone in this land over the
: ages of 18 to 20 has some recollection of oppression and a
: closed society.
: I've seen and heard disapora Ukrainians laughing and being
: condescending to Ukrainians. I've seen them mock some customs
: as though Ukrainians didn't know the "real rules". They seem to
: forget that in this vast land with its many regions and subregions,
: there are many and differing customs. It's not only the Russians
: that have been here but also the Poles, the Austrians, the
: Lithuanians among others. The "one size fits all" of the disapora
: education may not fit the collage of people and customs that are a
: part of this country.
: Now, I want to quote for a moment a part of the letter to the editor
: writer to the Kyiv Post as perhaps illustrative of what I mean by a
: condescending and superior attitude. The letter writer is from the
: U.S. "Poles don't speak Russian and don't crave to unite with
: Russia, and Russians don't speak Ukrainian and don't want to be
: called Little Ukrainians. Why is it wrong for the diaspora to demand
: a similar attitude of Ukrainians?"
: Did the guy say "demand"? Whose Army is he leading? "You boys
: can step back now, the disapora is here. We'll lead this fight. But,
: we demand you follow us." Gimme a break! Is he Napoleon or
: Custer? Maybe in reality he represents the people referred to in a
: famous pamphlet written sometime back..."the summer soldier
: and the sunshine patriot".
: Really, from America he could join a real fight and maybe be of
: some help to Ukraine and a few of us expats too. Teach people
: there about Ukraine. Teach that it is, outside of Russia, the largest
: nation in Europe. Teach that it has 50 million well-educated
: people. Teach that it is an independent nation. Teach that it is a
: democracy with growing pains, but a democracy, nonetheless.
: Spread the word Disapora. To all the lands. Then one day some of
: us can tell people we live in Ukraine. We can tell people we live in
: the beautiful capital city of Kyiv. And not have the response---"So,
: how are things in Russia? Kee..what, huh, is that near Moscow?
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