Re: Stop H.R. 1219

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Posted by Mr. Horan is not willing to stop UA bashing on September 17, 2005 at 13:41:16:

In Reply to: Re: Support H.R. 1219 posted by How did your anscestors come here? on September 17, 2005 at 12:18:50:

: Mr. Horan --
: Your name is Irish, not Native American. so, at least one of your anscestors came to this country. Perhaps you should read some history to see what people in the US used to say (and still do, if you listen to FM 101.5 in NJ) about the Irish. That should give you pause about making generalizations about any ethnic group.

: You took one trip to Ukraine, did not follow the law, were fined, your money was confiscated. Then, you went to court and obtained some relief. Many foreigners in the US do not any close to due process in our courts.

: If you have ever looked around you, you would know that no country or ethnicity has a lock on either good or bad people.

: The reason that the US has a visa lottery is because we do not have enough workers to fill many low-level jobs, which pay very little and offeer no benefits. Yet, these jobs need to be filled to maintain our standard of living.

: You sound like you are very angry about what happened to you and just can't let go. You are unable to accept that you were partially responsible and are flailing around, trying to hit anyone who comes within your reach.

: Hopefully, the next time that you travel somewhere, you will follow that country's laws and regulations. Then, you won't get into trouble.
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The following is from a former post written by someone else and I repost it here as it provides some add. background on Michael and his beliefs -

"Michael

You have posted the same story on another board, where the members apart from offering you their sympathy, asked several questions because your story was far fetched. You failed to answer all the questions and convince the members about the accuracy of your story and accused them of interrogating you like FSU. Finally you started posting a lot of pro-Russian propaganda and also praised the previous regime of Yanukovich, derided Ukrainians, the Orange revolution and president Yushenko for which you were castigated. Now you came here and started posting the same rubbish, looking for new audience to support your pro-Russian misinformation.

The facts are simple.

You arrived at the customs without declaring anything and only when they asked you if you have any money THEN you told customs that you were carrying out the same amount of Dollars as when you went in (3300 dollars) but you had not completed the required declaration form.

As is normal with customs (in every country), when you break the rules they confiscated your cash, fined you 1700 UHA and send you to appear before the court, charged you with illegal exportation of foreign currency but you elected to escape to USA. Meanwhile at very short time, before your flight departed, you managed to find somebody to represent you at the court to whom you paid 800 dollars. The court found you guilty of the offence but, as you said, allowed a refund of the fine (1700 UHA) imposed by the customs.

Here are the Rules about currency regulations in Ukraine, from the Boryspil airport site:

http://www.airport-borispol.kiev.ua/custom_supervision/v-money.html"

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No, Mr. Horan is not willing to let it go. Nor accept his own responsibility for what happened but uses it to buttress his personal viewpoints.

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: : Mr. Horan -- : : Your name is Irish, not Native American. so, at least one of your anscestors came to this country. Perhaps you should read some history to see what people in the US used to say (and still do, if you listen to FM 101.5 in NJ) about the Irish. That should give you pause about making generalizations about any ethnic group. : : You took one trip to Ukraine, did not follow the law, were fined, your money was confiscated. Then, you went to court and obtained some relief. Many foreigners in the US do not any close to due process in our courts. : : If you have ever looked around you, you would know that no country or ethnicity has a lock on either good or bad people. : : The reason that the US has a visa lottery is because we do not have enough workers to fill many low-level jobs, which pay very little and offeer no benefits. Yet, these jobs need to be filled to maintain our standard of living. : : You sound like you are very angry about what happened to you and just can't let go. You are unable to accept that you were partially responsible and are flailing around, trying to hit anyone who comes within your reach. : : Hopefully, the next time that you travel somewhere, you will follow that country's laws and regulations. Then, you won't get into trouble. : : : The following is from a former post written by someone else and I repost it here as it provides some add. background on Michael and his beliefs - : "Michael : You have posted the same story on another board, where the members apart from offering you their sympathy, asked several questions because your story was far fetched. You failed to answer all the questions and convince the members about the accuracy of your story and accused them of interrogating you like FSU. Finally you started posting a lot of pro-Russian propaganda and also praised the previous regime of Yanukovich, derided Ukrainians, the Orange revolution and president Yushenko for which you were castigated. Now you came here and started posting the same rubbish, looking for new audience to support your pro-Russian misinformation. : The facts are simple. : You arrived at the customs without declaring anything and only when they asked you if you have any money THEN you told customs that you were carrying out the same amount of Dollars as when you went in (3300 dollars) but you had not completed the required declaration form. : As is normal with customs (in every country), when you break the rules they confiscated your cash, fined you 1700 UHA and send you to appear before the court, charged you with illegal exportation of foreign currency but you elected to escape to USA. Meanwhile at very short time, before your flight departed, you managed to find somebody to represent you at the court to whom you paid 800 dollars. The court found you guilty of the offence but, as you said, allowed a refund of the fine (1700 UHA) imposed by the customs. : Here are the Rules about currency regulations in Ukraine, from the Boryspil airport site: : http://www.airport-borispol.kiev.ua/custom_supervision/v-money.html" : ------------------- : No, Mr. Horan is not willing to let it go. Nor accept his own responsibility for what happened but uses it to buttress his personal viewpoints.

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