Posted by Ukraine has the government it deserves on May 07, 2004 at 13:56:34:
In Reply to: Time for the Diaspora to know its place posted by realist on April 23, 2004 at 12:56:03:
You have listed a lot of problems, but no solutions. Your accusations that Ukrainian-Americans are fascist-banderites shows your ignorance. Forgive us for trying to help Ukraine become a democratic, less-corrupt society.
Who cares anymore. If Ukraine wants to continue to elect corrupt, soviet retreads and reject the influences of the west and advice of Ukrainian-Americans, it will continue to get the government it deserves.
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: Yeah, that'll happen.
: Grow up. This has been a pipe dream of the Banderites in America. You think the oligarchs in Ukraine would let them in even for a minute? The Banderites failed miserably to get votes in Verkhovna Rada, and now you think they'll take over? Fat chance.
: AND one evil exchanged for another is no solution. The Banderites are just as authoritarian and manipulative as any fascist system, and the people of Ukraine don't want them any more than they want the current regime or the previous one (i.e., the communists).
: Besides, Kuchma (who is no democrat, a marginal Ukrainian at best, and a prime example of a Soviet system product) has already sold Ukraine to the "YeEp" (Yedynij Ekonomichnij Prostir, or Single/Common Economic Space). With Russia again (still) at the helm of this neo-Soviet system, no Banderite or other Ukrainian nationalist group is going to be able to fight them now.
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: : for Ukrainian-Americans to take over the reigns of governing in Ukraine. It is very apparent that Kuchma's governance antics are hurting Ukraine's image and are hurting Ukrainian national interests internally and externally.
: : Pan Kuchma is acting more and more like an old world Soviet technocrat instead of a progressive Ukrainian agent of democracy.
: : Pan Kuchma's game is essentially "Soviet oligarchial survival" instead of "Ukrainian nationalist revival". We will change all that and move Ukraine into an Ukrainian nationalist state of mind.
: : We already have agents in Ukraine and we will act shortly to curtail Pan Kuchma's reign of terror upon Ukrainian patriots.