Re: some thoughts. vol. 2.

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: : OK. I'll try to keep it simple. : : 1. Say you live in the USA and make $6 an hour. You go to the BMW dealersip and try to get : : a car that costs $60,000. Is there any possible way that you will be able to keep up : : with payments? I don't think so. The current oil/gas situation is even worse. : Unfortunately without radical changes, it will remain that way. Tymoshenko and Yuschenko seem to be eager, but it all slows down at Kuchma. So only RADICAL changes in Ukrainian government will move Ukraine ahead. After all, whatever you say about Pinochet, he did move Chile far ahead in his 20-year reign. IF Ukraine will have a dictator it may actually benefit it. I know it may sound cynical and cruel, but a death of a thousand nouveau riches is worth moving Ukraine at least to a level of Poland. : : It's like you went to this dealership already having a debt that is more than your yearly : : income. So, if you will get the car, consider that you have it for free. : : What makes the matters even worse is that you can probably survive if the car gets : : repossesed by the dealership - you can walk or get a used car. Russia closes gas/oil : : pipe tomorrow, this will be it for the striving Ukrainian economy. : That's why Ukraine has to find alternative. If it cannot pay for gas (e.g. Norwegian), it has to get transfer fees to buy some. If Turkmenian gas or Kazakhi oil will go through Ukraine, it will diversify Ukraine's gas and oil sources. So if 20-30% of gas will go from Russia, it cannot dictate us anything. : : 3. Ukraine does not have serious fleet, : You mean, military? I think it has enough. : > planes are not properly maintained (I believe, : : some of them were given back to Russia as a payment towards the gas/oil debt), : True. : : needless to say, no new weapons are being developed due to a lack of money. : Huh? What about new tanks made by Kharkivsky Mashynobudivny? The tanks were sold to Pakistan, maybe some will be sold to Turkey and India. : : Nuclear weapons were given back to Russia. Ukraine is defenseless. : Ukraine doesn't need nuclear weapons and it isn't defenseless. If Romania doesn't have nuclear weapons, can anyone big attack it? The answer is no. If Russia attacks Ukraine, which is highly unlikely, Ukraine's weapon will be NATO. : : Somebody already wrote here about Chornovil having tomatoes thrown at him in Crimea. : What? V. Chornovil was killed in a car accident. : : Just a food for thought. : : I am not saying any of this is good. Just being realistic. Problems have to be identified : : before they can be dealt with. Just sitting and thinking "everything is gonna be OK" or : : "hey, we are not THE WORST" or calling anybody who doesn't agree with what is going on : : a "russian nationalist" does not solve anything. : Nobody here does neither. Especially not the last. : : : : 5. Again, being a source of cheap labor force : : is a "trampoline" that young economies use to get some competetive advantage : : on the market. Ukraine has everything it needs to attract foreign investors - : : a lot of well-educated people eager to find a decent job, plants looking to : : change the profile of their production, relatively stable political situation : : (much more stable then in Russia, for example). If, for example, BMW rebuilds : : the Kommunar Plant (ZAZ) and starts building some cars there, they will be able : : to sell them much cheaper then if the cars were assembled in Germany. : Umm... Daewoo already owns AutoZAZ. : : They will also give workers a higher salary compared to what they are making right now. : : Both sides win. : : Huge problem that prevents all this from happening is the bureaucracy and corruption. : I generally agree with you here. : : From Yanko's and Andrew's responses it sounds like they would rather prefer to close the : : plant down than let somebody use it. : Haven't read their responces.

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