Posted by Joe on August 04, 2000 at 19:04:09:
In Reply to: Re: .. more like lying, who Yanko? posted by Ihor on August 03, 2000 at 13:48:15:
To Ihor=Yanko from Joe
: Well, you are absolutely right. It is Mr.Lipinsky's fault that he pointed out the Soviet type of imperialistic politics in Samostijna Ukraina.
Ihor: Please don't give me the words I didn't say.
RE: You do it far more frequently than I. Perhaps you should know that as a result of the pressure of Ukrainian diplomats on Slovak government of the former PM Mechiar, the Rusyn text-books for elementary schools were not distributed and stored in a warehouse somewhere in Bratislava. I hope that you are proud of this achievement of Ukrainian diplomats. Fortunately, this changed with government of PM Dzurinda and the Rusyn text-books are distributed to Rusyn children not only in Slovakia but also in Hungary.
: I was expecting you to react in this way.
Ihor: I fulfilled your expectations.
RE: As always
Ihor: What other responce could this article get?
RE: From Nationalistic Ukrainian one can expect only denial and Bolshevik type of propaganda against it..
Ihor And you didn't answer my main question, "conveniently omitted" it, so to say.
RE: What was the question?
Ihor: What celestial authority made Mr. Lipinsky spokesman and representative of Ukrainian Rusyns or all Rusyns?
He speaks in the name of 50 000 Rusyns in Slovakia. The Rusyns have right to have a spokesmen. Ukrainians have too. Why are you asking? Do you mean that Rusyns of Slovakia are obliged to ask permission from Kiyev? He does not speak in the name of those Rusyns who converted into Ukrainian nationality. Problem is that there are few Ukrainians and thus less amount of money is given to Ukrainian organizations now as it was before. During the communist regime all Rusyns were Ukrainians. Period. The guys representing Ukrainians in Slovakia are former members of communist party of Slovakia, so called "red docents" teachers at Universities, particularly in Preshov and Koshice. Many of them came from Ukraine. They were teaching such subjects as Scientific Communism or Political Economy or History of USSR, Ukrainian language etc. Since nobody is interested any more in these subjects, they have been trying to get other way to control financial resources, so they try to play with Ukrainian nationalism and use the hybrid word Rusyn-Ukrainian alive. Well, you can guess that their contribution to increase esteem towards Ukraine has had opposite effect.
: However, I can assure you that your safety as well as the other Het'mans with the Soviet imperialistic mentality is not in question because I do not eat pork.
Ihor: Still high?
RE: Not as much as you used to be.
: Please feel free in your activities in producing of high numbers of Ukrainian beggars and prostitutes in the name of Samostijna Ukraina.
Ihor: Uh-huh. Now he starts insulting our country. Good ol' US of A is really a fine place for you.
RE: Of course, I never though about it that Ukraine east from Carpathian Mountains would be a place for me. However, after almost ten years of Samostijna Ukraina, it is time for Ukrainians to have priorities clearly determined. A good indicator for improvements can be the declining numbers of beggars and prostitutes in this country.
: Furthermore, it is almost impossible for me to soak my brain in horilka, as for instance you can do.
Ihor: Anyone can. But I don't drink vodka.
: I drink kosher wine.
Ihor: And I like beer. So what? I don't drink more than a bottle.
RE: You are the most unusual Ukrainian. At least if you drink four or five bottles of beer, one might consider that you have something to do with Czechs or Bavarians.