Re: Djakuju mamko, za ukrajinske z'ytja, to Ihor.

Subject:

Comments:
: : : To IHOR from JOE. : : : Ihor :Why, it's painfully obvious to everyone but you: Yanko needs no help responding to you. : : : RE: Than, why are you keep doing it? (See also my latest response Joe 07/30/00 (0) ) : : Ihor: Why not? If I want to discuss something with you, why shouldn't I? Well, unless you don't want to of course. : : RE: Of course, you can. However, Yanko is completely silent and only you are doing the noise. So you are not Yanko, aren't you? : No, I am not "doing the noise" and I'm not Yanko, rest assured. : : : RE: Well, it looks like he needs to mobilize the whole Zaporozska Sich. : : : Ihor: It's Zaporiz'ka : : : RE: Excuse me, I forgot that novels, particularly Taras Bul'ba, of the most talented writer of Ukraine, Gogol' (Hohol') are forbidden to read in Samostijna Ukraina. It is Zaporozskaja Sech, isn't it? : : Ihor: In Russian, of course. : : RE: Is it for you "of course"?! Is it forbidden to read in original language how Gogol' wrote it? : Gee, I haven't even read it in Ukrainian. And in Russian in like grade 8. : : So the next step will be burning the books written in Russian language. : Joe, what exactly is it that you try to say? : : Ihor: But judging by the way you ended Zaporozhian in "ska" and wrote "i" in Sich, I presumed you wrote in Ukrainian. So I corrected you. : : RE: I never heard in Mukachevo to pronounce Zaporozska Sich as "Zaporizska". Do not forget I am not from Velykoho Bereznoho, a Ukrainian nationalistic place and I do not speak Ukrainian.. : Well, no language has a form of Zaporozhian as "Zaporizska". In Russian it's Zaporozhskaya, in Ukrainian it's Zaporiz'ka. Gee, do you even know the difference betw. z and zh? : : : : : : : RE: The whole statement, which you chopped up to obscure the fact was as follows: "Yanko, bolo bo menshe bidy na Pudkarpatiu kibo ste Vy, Zaporozhci, daly pokuj Rusynam. Za tych majzhe 10 rokuv Samostijnej Ukrainy len bidu a zhobrotu ste rozmnozhyly na Pudkarpatiu a nych ynshe." It seems that in the name of Samostijna Ukraina the misery of people in Subcarpathian Rus is completely irrelevant to you. Is this your massage? : : : Ihor: 1. Massage? : : : RE: Yes, "to massage our brain", another word is brainwashing, with only correct view that is expressed by Ukrainian nationalists. : : Ihor.Nje, ne vykruchujtesia :-)) : : RE: O.K. nevykruchujusia, but you fully agree with the statement "Za tych majzhe 10 rokuv Samostijnej Ukrainy len bidu a zhobrotu ste rozmnozhyly na Pudkarpatiu a nych ynshe." : Every country had it's problems. No, Joe, the problems aren't only in Zakarpattia and they aren't the biggest ones there. : : : Ihor: "2. I read your whole message, even though I needed only the first sentence to understand that you keep singing your "zaporiz'ka" song. Well gee, sorry to ruin your fantasy, your comments can't be taken completely seriously." : : : RE: I do not expect you or other nationalistic Ukrainians to take things rationally and seriously. : : Ihor: Quite correct, only YOUR things though and without the word "rationally". I took it rationally, though not very seriously. : : RE: The problem is that strong nationalism with elements of "belief" is incompatible with rational thinking. : It is. : : : That you are not rational it is reflected in the current state-of-affaires in Ukraine and misery of its population. : : Ihor: Why, I'm flattered:-) I am currently in Canada, is it also miserable?:-) : : RE: What a pervert reaction to feel "flattered" when people of Ukraine are in such misery. : No, Joe, I was surprised to see you blame nationalists for Ukraine's bad times. In fact, it's so rediculous that nothing serious could be said about that. : : As for Canada, it is a great country. Let's hope that French and Ukrainian nationalism won't reach such level that this great country will have a similar fate as Ukraine. : Joe, there's Canadian nationalism too, had it ruined the country? As for "French nationalism", well, do you expect Quebecois people to be English nationalists? Although most are Canadian AND French patriots at the same time. : : It is very easy to destroy things but it is very hard to build them. : : : Ihor: What is C-RS?" : : : RE: Carpatho-Rusyn Society. : : : Ihor: Website? : : : RE: Members of C-RS and participants on this board have already provided this information. You can look it up, even if you are an Ataman from Zaporozskaja Sech. : : Ihor: I'd be delighted to be Otaman and even Het'man, but see, we've got this darn president:-)) : : RE: If you cannot succeed against "this darn president" than you do not work sufficiently hard and stop to think about yourself that you are very intelligent. : Joe, it was a joke, what part of a word "joke" don't you understand? : : : You should know that "Zaporozhec za Dunajom" is an imperialistic symbol of "Great Brothers" from East of Carpathian Mountains. : : Ihor: ...which "Great brothers" : : RE: Of course, Russians and Ukrainians, the two greatest "Slavic Brothers". : Huh? : : Ihor: "…from West of Carpathians seem to have no problem with.: : : RE: Subcarpathia was annexed to USSR in order to send the tanks to Budapest, Bratislava and Prague when the "Great brothers" saw it suitable. : Bwohahahaha!!:-)))) What are you talking about? You mean Soviets knew that in 11 years Hugary will rebel and they'll have to move the troops in, so instead of doing it through communist Czechoslovakia they'll have straight access? :-)) Oh, and when were tanks sent to Bratislava? : : And, as you know, it did occur more than once.. The fate of Czechs, Slovaks, Rusyns, Hungarians, Romanians, Austrians, Croatians cannot and must not be determine by Atamans and Het'mans sitting in Moscow and Kiyev. : No, Joe, only in Moscow. And you should add Ukrainians there too, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Chechens, Ingushes, Avarians etc. etc. etc. : : : Nations, located West from Carpathian Mountains, do not like to obey and serve them. : : Ihor: Nation>S<? : : RE See above. : : Ihor: Nobody obeys and server anyone. : : RE: Really, and what about those documents of Ukrainian officials regarding how to convert Rusyns in Slovakia and Hungary into Ukrainians? These Rusyns are citizens of these countries. : Those documents? : :What about this dirty attempts of Het'man's interference into internal affairs of Slovakia and Hungary? : What are you talking about, Joe? : : Ihor: We are part of one nation, Ukrainian nation and we are equal. : : RE: Nice Bolshevik vocabulary. Hmm, "one nation, one country, one president" reminds the famous slogan from the third Reich. You just need to extend a little bit the power of the president and you've got it. : Tell me what's so bolshevik or Nazi about a nation with all regions being equal?

Optional Link URL:
Link Title: