Re: Djakuju mamko, za ukrajinske z'ytja!

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: : To Pavol from Joe : : Pavol: : Does it give you some kind of satisfaction to convert someone's name in your own form? Then why are you called "Joe"? It ain't Rusyn name, I can tell ya that, pal. : :"Ranishe buly vynuvati zhydy, a teper "Zaporozhci"? : : Odp.: Po pershe to boly Zaporozhci, pochynaja od Bogdana Khmelnic'koho, kotri vynyly zhyduv. Rusyny neznaly shto to je antisemitism v takij formi jak to bolo mezh Velykorosamy, Ukrainc'amy, Mad'aramy, Pol'akamy alebo Slovakamy. Rusyny nyboly infikovani nacionalizmom jak susidni narody. : Ok, let's imagine for a sec that there were no anti-semites etc. among Rusyn. How would you know that and where's the proof?:-) : : Tym sa lyshat' Rusyny na Pudkarpatti od susiduv. Do tych susiduv treba chyslyty aj Ukrajincuv, kotri sa nachodat' od geografichnoho centra Europy, od hrebenov Karpat, na Vychodi (Vostoci). Bulsha chast' zhyduv prejshla z Ukrainy bo utikali pered pogromamy Kozakuv kotri boly najchastishe zo Zaporozhia ale aj z Donu. A chumu zhydy z Ukrainy tu na Pudkarpatti najshly a vybraly sobi novyj domuv? Bo Rusyny boly a aj sut' tolerantni. (Tuj netreba chyslyty tych, kotri sja pereminyly na velykych Mad'aruv abo Ukrajincuv "Zaporozhciv".) Rusyny nauchyly sja zhyty s druhyma narodami bez nenavisti podl'a zakona "Live and let live" (Leben nach leben). : I don't want to comment freshly written Ukrainian history by Joe, so let's skip that part, ok? Whatever you managed to learn about true Ukrainian history isn't enough to write two pages in a "History by Joe" book you're starting right here. : : Po druhe, termin " Zaparozhci" ja upotrebyv ny : "Termin zaparozhci" po vidnoshenniu do ukrayinciv vzhyvaiete tilky Vy, zmyrit'sia z cym. : (The rest is omitted, for there's nothing there to comment, it's simply Joe's understanding, we'll let him live with them) : : P: A hto holosuvav za "Zaporozhcya" Surkisa - ne Rusyny? A zvidky rodom Durdynets', Pynzenyk - ne z : : "Pudkarpatia"? : : Odp.: Demokratychne holosovania za autonomiju Pudkarpatja Het'many v Kiyevi : It's Kyiv. : : "skasuvaly", bo kontrol' pre Kyiev : It's Kyiv. : : je holovnishe nezh rozvoj ekonomiky a lipshe zhyttia pre zhyteliv Pudkarpattia. Kid' sia normalnyj demokratychnyj process zdeformuje, ta deformacia zustaje a zato nemaje znachinja hovority o holosuvan'i. : : O Durdincovi a Pynzenykovi neznaju nych a v najpopularnishich novynkach Pudkarpattia "Staryj Zamok" sja o nykh nepyshe. Dajte my informacii ( refernce) o tychto dvoch horozhanach Ukrainy z Pudkarpatjia. Djekuvu krasno. : : P:Shukajmo voroha v sobi, a ne v susidi, vid c'oho ne vyhrayeno ni my ni vin, vyhraye tretiy - toy, shcho zishtovhuye nas lobamy. : : Odp.: Treba Rusynuv lyshyty na pokoji a na posady davaty tych z kraju kotri znavut robyty a chestovaty zakon. Usticha a druchych Het'manuv-Zaporozcuv (nachalnykuv) z Galicii, : I'm sure it's something like Galicina even in a version of Rusyn you're speaking. : : Podolia, kotri zabyravut' najlipshi mista (posady) na Pudkarpatti, Rusyny nevybyraly. Vy Pavle, jak aj druhi, majete velyku problemu rozumity, shto znachyt' "incentive and equity". Podumajte nad tym, chumu Shvajchiarski Francuzy sut' lojalni Shvejcarii a ne Francii. : A Vam cas vzhe podumaty i vtiamyty, scho rusyny Ukrayiny loial'ni Ukrayini bil'se nizh deiaki ukrayinci. Otzhe oblyste demagogiiu. : : P.S. Po nashomu pysaty neuchivsja a po Ukrainsky "neumiju". Perebachte za chyby. : I can understand you perfectly. Well, at least your words, sometimes I don't get your strange logic but that's a separate topic. : : P.S. If don't answer me in foreseeable future, please e-mail me a copy of your post. I don't read archives.

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