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Posted by zlodej on July 09, 2000 at 19:19:52:

In Reply to: To our Russian friend of 'salo' posted by Andrew K on July 09, 2000 at 04:55:43:

Ochevidno, mr. Andrew pitaet neutoliaemuju nenavist' k russkim (k nim on prichisliaet
vseh, kto po-russki govorit').
Eto delaet ego rassuzhdenija ves'ma tumannymi i nelogichnymi.
Popytaemsia rassmotret' rassuzhdenija mr. Andrew v svete prostoj chelovescheskoj logiki
(kotoraja, kak izvestno ochen' ne nravitsia gospodam natsionalistam).

Mr. Andrew pishet:

Not "chego ta sdelat'", read my post again if you can't get it the first time.
Practically ALL of your 'red directors' speak Russian and dreamed to be promoted into
Moscow when Russian occupation was still in tact.
Who they are "ethnically" even God himself doesn't know, not that anyone cares.

Glubina myslej Mr. Andrew voistinu velika. On povtoriaet tu mysl', chto neobiazate'no mol byt'
russkim po krovi, dostatochno govorit' po-russki i hotet' zarabotat' pobol'she deneg
(dumaju eto, a ne patrioticheskie chuvstva k Rossii byli motivami "krasnyh direktorov"
chtoby be promoted into Moscow) chtoby byt' obvinennom v strashnom prestuplenii
- lubvi k Rossii. I, estestvenno, esli pitaesh simpatii k Rosii - ty poslednij negodiaj
i zanimaeshsia vorovstvom den' i noch'.
V etoj sviazi pozvol'te uvazhaemy zadat' vam vopros. Vot, Leonid Kuchma. On byl "krasnym
direktorom" v Denpropetrovske. Pochenu-zhe ego dvazhdy vybrali presidentom?
Po vashej logike, on - vor i russkij patriot. Mozhet byt' ves' ukrainskij narod (ego bol'shaja chast' po krajnej mere)
kotory ego vybral - russkie patrioty?

Na moj vopros:
: Interesno, a ne rabotaet li eta formula "naoborot", to est' ne javliajutsia li skrytymi
: hohlami Lermontov, Dostoevskij, Tostoj, Chaikovskij, Mendeleev, Tsiolkovskij, Turin, Ampilov, Bulgakov,
: Kalashnikov, Saharov, Letov ...? Mozhet Einshtein i Newton tozhe hohly? Ne isklucheno.

Mr. Andrew otvechaet:

Did they speak Ukrainian and were considered Ukrainian patriots?
No, so why so many silly questions?
I know you are lacking come culture by reading your 'salo' drivels,
but now you seem to lack some simple logic as well.

Voobshe-to, otvechat' na sarkasticheskie voprosy ne javliaetsia priznakom bol'shogo uma so
storony Mr. Andrew. Kak govoritsia "kakov vopros takov ovet" - da, nakol'ko mne izvestno,
Einshtein byl ukraintsem. Ego nastojashaja familija - Zhodnokamenko. On javliaetsia
dvourodnym bratom Bandery i plemiannikom generala Dudaeva. Po svidetel'stvy sovremennikov, on
lubil pogovarivat'v krugu druzej, nadev kepku s trezubtsem :
"Os', skoro vzhe Adol'f do vlady pryjde, pidemo katsapiv znyshchaty".

Ne dajut mr. Andrew pokoja direktora AES. V chastnosti - Energodarskoj stancii.
Na moe zamechanie:

: Ja ne znakom s direktorami AES na Ukraine. Ja (krome Energodarskoj) dazhe i ne znau gde oni nahodiatdsia.
: No vot v Energodare po-ukrainski prakticheski nikto ne govorit. S chego by vdrug tamoshnemu
: directoru po-ukrainski razgovarivat' ?

g-n Andrew otvechaet:

Exactly, the guy was probably brought there somewhere from Russia,
or worked very long time for the Russian masters,
learned their habits how to steal, be an uncultured pig, and kiss Moscow's behind.
Why WOULD he speak Ukrainian?
All his love to Ukraine ends at 'horilka' and 'salo'.
Well, Ukraine is also the place where he can steal something.

M-da. A vy voobshe mr. Andrew uvereny, chto on, etot negodny direktor CHTO-NIBUD' ukral?
Ved' eto, znaete, kleveta. I konechno-zhe vy ne poniali, chto ja imel v vidu.
Povtoriaju - v Energodare, kak i v Zaporozhye vozle kotorogo on nahoditsia, po-ukrainski
prakticheski nikto ne govorit. Chto-zhe oni vse tam patrioty Rossii?
Esli net, pochemu-zhe imenno etot zloschastny direktor - patriot Rossii, a ostal'nye - net?

G-n Andrew upriamo prodolzhaet gnut' liniju tipa "vor - znachit russkij patriot".
On zajavliaet:
Finally, you are starting to get the point.
Fortunately, there is one lazarenko less in Ukraine.

Nesomnenno, Lazarenko - russkij, raz obvinen v vorovstve.

Zatem mr. Andrew prodolzhaet razvivat' mysl' o zloveshih russkih patriotah, zapolonivshih
ukrainskie struktury.

Of course Ukraine was and still is forced to do that.
Look how many true Russian patriots are sitting at some very high places.
Who put those guys there? People who ruled before them.
And those people were... exactly ... in Moscow.
The process of healing is long and hard.
So while Russian zlodejs like yourself can laugh at Ukraine being struck down by that
sickness, they still refuse to admit WHO BROUGHT THAT PLAGUE ONTO UKRAINE.
Where can we find an even BIGGER corruption and decay?
But, of course, in your lovely motherland, dear zlodej.

Da ved' prezidenta vashego, Kuchmu, narod vybral. K komu pretenzii? Neponiatno.
Kto-zhe iz true Russian patriots are sitting at some very high places ?
Postarajtes' uzh hot' familii privesti chto-li, i pochemu vy ih schitaete russkimi patriotami.
Ja ne uveren, kakim obrazom g-n Andrew mozhet sravnit' stepen' korruptsii, odnako, po
ego slovam, v Rossii ee bol'she. Ne isklucheno, odnako postarajte' ob'jasnit' na kakom
osnovanii vy eto utverzhdaete.

Vot zamechatel'naja fraza g-na Andrew:

So please, watch INTER, read FAKTY and enjoy till their owners still walk free in Ukraine.

Chto-zhe uvazhaemy, vy protiv svobody slova? "Walk free"??? - ih chto-zhe arestovat'?
Esli da - za chto? Za neugodnost' mr. Andrew i izhe s nim? Chem zhe eto budet otlichatsia
ot metodov kommunarov, kotoryh vy tak ne lubite?

P.S. Have you learned how to write in a language other than Russian?
Yep. Some of my previous postings (1 or 2) were in English.
Take your time and read them if you will. Obviously I understand your postings as well,
so I guess, that question doesn't make much sense (unless of course, you assume that
I can read in english, but can't write in it).

Porazitel'no. Uzh 10 let kak SSSR razvalilsia, a Ukraina vse ne mozhet otdelat'sia ot
kompleksa "mladshego brata" po otnosheniju k Rossii.
V teh zhe Moldavii, Vengrii, Rumynii, Kazahstane nikto
ne obviniajet russkih v ekonomicheskih i social'nyh bedah.
Kommunistov - da. Ih obviniajut. No oni u nih byli svoi, domoroschhennye
"natsional'nye kadry". Chaushesku ili Alieva nikto ne nazyvaet russkim patriotom,
tepereshnih prvitelej i podavno.
A vot po logike mr. Andrew, Scherbitskij byl
nikem inym kak "russkim patriotom".
Pochemu-to na Ukraine na vopros "pochemu ekonomika razvalena"
(a ved' byl neplohoj potencial poka zavody ne pozakryvali), bez upominanija Rossii nikto
iz gospod natsionalistov otvetit' ne v sostojanii. Stranno.




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