Re: /|EMKIBCKA BATPA


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Posted by Joe on July 08, 2000 at 17:53:57:

In Reply to: Re: /|EMKIBCKA BATPA posted by Pavlo on July 08, 2000 at 12:23:25:

: : Are you saying then, that in 1914 when St. Maksym died, by "naj z'yje russkij narod" he meant "may the Ukrainian people live"? Do you think that in 1914 he did not know that Rusyny had changed their name to Ukrainian?

: I am (and all my ancestors were) originally from Eastern Ukraine. My grandmother borned in 1898 and died in 1990 in a small willage near Russian border always - at the and of this century! - said about us Ukrainians "rus'ki" and about Russians - "Katsapy".

RE: To Pavlo from Joe.

Pavlo, I indicated earlier to you that I do not like such derogatory words “Katsapy”, “Khokhly” etc. However, it is tough to avoid them in these enlightened discussions. My grandpa was born in 1880 and died in 1963, while my father was born in 1905 and died in 1990, both in Subcarpathia (Transcarpathia). They called themselves Rus’kyj but more frequently Rusyn but never Ukrainec or Russkij. They called Ukrainians who visited or settled in Subcarpathia, irrespective whether from Galicia, Kiyev or Donbas, as “ a to sut’ Poliaky” or “a to sut’ Khokhly”.




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