Posted by Joe on June 30, 2000 at 23:52:44:
In Reply to: Re: Yanko's statement and question to Moshe? posted by Moshe on June 29, 2000 at 17:32:48:
:: Hi Moshe!
: It looks that you like to mix all things together.
RE: What exactly are those “all things”?
You probably like cocktails very much.
RE: No, I do not drink cocktails. What is your favorite drink?
Here I don't see any question for me,
RE: This is the Yanko’s sentence: "Anyway, I hear Hitler had some Jewish blood in him, so according to your perverse logic Jews now should feel guilty for Hitler, oder?" Since you are Moshe, I thought that you might be in a position to address at least the first part of this question.
but what is nationalistic influence anyway?
RE: The original sentence indicated a negative nationalistic influence and defined as follows: a kind of influence that is manifested by increased intolerance. (e.g. mild form – Taras’ slogans [see above], malignant form – a pogrom by Cossacks or by skinheads—Nazi toughs).
You go as far as Bohdan Khmelnytsky but can you go further or your knowledge just suddenly stops there?
RE: I have no problem to go further. Before Bogdan Khmelnicky, there were Nabuchodonosor and Titus. After Bogdan Khmelnicky, there were Adolf Hitler and Adolf Eichman.
Pogrom is not a Ukrainian word
RE: I never claimed.
and why this things happened you have slightest idea.
RE: Is this a question?
Next time you read a book about pogroms look who wrote it.
RE: I always do. What it has to do with proven historical events?
If you want to know, Joe, many Ukrainians in Galicia called themselves Rusyns not so long ago.
RE: Yes I do know it very well. And I hope that Rusyns in Subcarpathia can remaine as they are (Rusyns), and they won’t be called Ukrainians only because in Galicia they call themselves Ukrainians.
And now, this is specially for you, Joe:
RE: I am deeply touched by your graciousness.
: Mala baba try syny,
: Troye buly Rusyny,
: Odyn hodyv do shkoly,
: Drygyi kuvav pidkovy,
: A tretiy, rozpusniak
: Vylliav babi kapusniak.
: Were you the third one, Joe?
RE: You know better. However, I heard another version of this story. During a pogrom of a village inhabited by Rusyns and Jews, a Cossack with his horse run into a yard and “vylliav babi kapustniak.”
This Cossack was from Zaporizzia and, unlike Taras Bulba, he spoke Ukrainian.
: Let's talk about Soviet commissars next time and how it happened that millions of innocent people in Ukraine were killed or starved to death and nobody is responsible so far? Many of those commissars with well rounded bellies are still alive and became refugees in US, Israel and other contries. Moreover, they brought all of their families with them and tell everybody they … … How do you like that?
RE: I have no problem to talk about it, though I do not like at all when innocent people suffer, irrespective of their ethnicity. However, I would like to know, why are you lamenting here, and why aren’t you doing something about it? Simon Wisenthal was capable to collect evidence and successfully challenge a number of Nazi criminals in the court of law. I am convinced that having clear-cut evidence of crimes against humanity, these “comissars” would be prosecuted. But keep in mind, allegations have to be tested in the court of law.
:Shalom, Joe