Posted by Joe on June 30, 2000 at 08:52:16:
In Reply to: Another illustration to Joe's incapability of logical thinking posted by Yanko on June 29, 2000 at 18:53:30:
: : Yanko: “…as your blaming me for the fact that Lysenko was Ukrainian. “
RE: Simply not true!
Here my statements and your responses:
Joe: “The only intellectual from Subcarpathian Rus, who is in a good shape, is Academician Myshanych … … Do you think that it is because he is close to Poltava and remnants of the famous Ukrainian Academician Lysenko still has an effect on him?… he [Myshanych] is using the same approach to ethnic origin of Rusyns, as the famous Ukrainian Academician Lysenko to existence of genes.. ..."
Yanko: "What is that supposed to mean? Are you trying to be sarcastic?"
Joe: "What do you expect? To pretend that Lysenko is not Ukrainian as well as the greatest crook in biological sciences of the XX century! You should be concerned with the Lysenko's spirit in the current Ukraine, if you are patriotic Ukrainian, as you claim."
Yanko: "You probably failed to notice that Lysenko was a simple agronomist, who was used by Stalinist propaganda. There were far more terrible things happening at that time, Joe…”
Joe: Do I blame you ? Where is it stated that you are responsible? Simply, I am trying to point out that the Bolshevik culture was created by Ukrainians as well. Academician Lysenko contributed to it substantially and you should be concerned with that Bolshevik culture, because it destroys Ukraine. Academician Myshanych is in the same track regarding the Rusyn question. However, you are trying to minimize it by pointing out that he was an agronomist and used by Stalin. And you know that this is crap! He(Lysenko) used the system to gain power as much as possible. He sent to Gulag his opponents, highly talented top geneticists. Lysenko’s personality one can evaluate very well after 1953 following Stalin’s death and publication of Double Helix (DNA model) by Watson and Crick in Nature. He had tried to continue his “scientific” activities the same way as during the Stalin’s era. His power had been declining very slowly for about seven -eight years to the end of the decade (1959-60). His Institute was reviewed by his peers (Academicians) and found out that the basic protocols of the claimed critical experiments never existed!
Y:Then I must clarify: ANTIUKRAINISM IS PRECISELY AS BAD AS ANTISEMITISM, Joe.
Joe: FULLY AGREE WITH YOU, Yanko and ANTIRUSYNISM IS PRECISELY AS BAD AS ANTIUKRAINISM OR ANTISEMITISM.
Joe::How can one classify Taras' slogan presented on this board?
Yanko::This question you should direct to Taras, not to me. Well, I know by now that it seems entirely logical to you that I should answer for what Taras writes.
Joe: Marusja, a Ukrainian, gave an excellent answer to Taras. (Take a look on her answer). It seems that Ukrainian women can handle things better than Ukrainian men.
Yanko, the bottom line is that you should let Germans and Jews to deal with Hitler and his blood. You take care of your folks, the Ukrainian nationalists who are willing to invite Le Pen any time.
Sincerely, Joe