
Posted by UKIE-II on June 19, 2001 at 23:06:35:
In Reply to: Re: Language and Culture posted by Patriot on June 19, 2001 at 21:51:34:
WHAT ABOUT THE COSSACK-ROBBERS? ONE THEY WERE ROBBERS THUS COSSACKS COULD NOT BECOME FREEDOM-FIGHTERS.
: Both Poland and Russia were invaders. Do you not see the difference? As far as the Poles colonizers in Ukraine they were given the same choice as the Ukrainian children and grandparents leave because the village will burn. They chose to stay for the glory of the Polish army and invading Poland. It is ugly but it was "tit for tat". The Holodomor was genocide similar to the Holocaust because the people had no choice to stay or go.
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: : :We are talking about 1941-45. Are you telling that burning to death children and grandparents are "responded in kind" and should be acceptable? From Bolshevik's point of view the Holodomor was "responding in kind". Why are you talking about it and comparing it to Holocaust? Let's wait for detailed documentation of evidence from Lublin, O.K.
: : : What are very bad when nationalistic feelings dominate so much that nationalistic individuals loose their touch with humanity. Namely, when Ukrainian nationalists in the name of Soborna Ukraina, the second largest Slavic state, committed atrocities in Galicia against civil population because they happened to be Polish and not Ukrainians. Currently, these atrocities are investigated in Lublin (Poland).
: : : The atrocities were always initiated by the invaders of Ukraine.
: : : The Ukrainians responded in kind. This is a fact that was agreed upon before the so called investigations even began. The invaders and colonizers were defeated according to how wars were fought during those times. How can invading murderers cry foul upon being defeated?
: : : But back to the original issue If there is a so called non-Ukrainian Rusyn population (however they were created) they can build their own and not demand handout or creation of something that does not exist.
: : ::: This is the language from Czarist Russia when Malorossia existed.
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: : The Ukrainian Rusyn are building their own wether Poland likes it or not.
: : ::: I have no problem with it.
: : There are not enough so called non-Ukrainian Rusyn in Ukraine.
: : ::: According to Ukrainian chauvinists. There are very very few differences between Russians and Ukrainians, particularly in this respect. One faces exactly the same imperialistic chauvinism as Ukrainians used to face in time of Velikoj Russi.