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Borys Kosarev: Modernist Kharkiv, 1915-1931 at The Ukrainian Museum thru May 2, 2012
Posted by Joe on April 30, 2000 at 12:29:38:
In Reply to: Back to the Rusyn issue! posted by Zmiy Mamay on April 19, 2000 at 23:06:22:
RE:To Zmiy Mamay from Joe.
:“…when I read some pieces of the Rusyn poetry i could understand 90% of it!!!!! Isn't it surprising?!”
>>Not at all! Slovaks and Checks can mutually understand at least 95% of theirs spoken and printed languages. In the case of Croats and Serbs, it is practically 100% as well as in the case of Macedonians and Bulgarians. Similarly, there are negligible language differences between Austrians and Germans and both nations are using the same literary language (Hoch Deutsch). However, I do not recommend you to tell the Croats that they are Serbs or vice versa. Be prepared that you loose some teeth and your nose will be swollen.
“Historically Karpats'ka Ukrayina formed a common state with the rest of Ukraine only for a very short period of time (for about 80 years) during the times of Kyivan Rus' (of course before it joined Ukraine in 1944).”
>>First of all the terminology the “Karpats’ka Ukrayina” emerged in the Suncarpathian Rus after the Ist WW. This is the contribution of Ukrainian immigrants, particularly such nationalists as the scout master Leonyd Bachinskyi (the Plast scout), Ivan Pan’keyvych, Volodymyr Birchak and Vasyl’ Pachovskyi (Prosvita) from Galicia. These Ukrainian nationalists emigrated to Subcarpathian Rus in early 1920s. You do not like the imported Russian nationalism in Ukraine. Why should the Rusyns of Subcarpathian Rus like the imported Ukrainian nationalism? Second, there is no verifiable scientific evidence that the Subcarpathian Rus was a part of the Kyievan Rus. All available evidence points to the contrary of this claim.
: I make several conclusions:
: 1. Rusyns and Ukrainians are ethnicly the SAME people.
: FAR LESS than the Russians and Ukrainians, Slovaks and Checks or Serbs and Croats are.
: 2. The Ukrainian language which is very close to what we speak now existed back in the Medieval times (because Rusyn and Ukrainian are very close)
>>The old Slavonic language was used by Slavic tribes united in the first Slavic state, Great Moravia, that was located on the current territory of Check lands (Moravia), Slovakia, Hungary, including Subcarpathia, and part of Rumania. You are ignoring the missionary work of Cyril and Methodius who translated the Bible into the old Slavonic language and converted the Slavs of these regions into Christians in 863. This took place five generations before the Kyievan Rus became Christian!!!
: 3. The Rusyn issue is clearly political. It'd would be advantageous for the enemies of Ukraine to divide her into several parts (the smaller and weaker the better!)
>>This is exactly what the Communists had been claiming about the enemies of people who, according to the communists’ paranoia, wanted to destroy the “worker’s paradise”. The end is known - they destroyed themselves!!!
: 4. I'm proud of being Ukrainian! But sometimes I'd be happy If people call me Rusyn - my historical ethnic name!!!!!
>>Take in consideration that there are Rusyns who feel offended when you or others call them Ukrainians, because they do not have sense for the Cossak’s culture, Het’man’s mentality, pathological nationalism and intolerance.
Joe.