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Posted by Wasyl Gorbachuk on April 11, 2000 at 16:42:47:

In Reply to: Our real problems. posted by Yaroslav on April 10, 2000 at 22:37:32:

: I am giving you four problems that our government is trying to make us fight over in order to stir us away from understanding the real situation in country and doing something about it. You may not agree with me and I will not argue. We can prove virtually any point. To hear your opinions would be nice, though.
: Problem # 1. Should we have the referendum?
: Solution: Neither President nor parliament members are competent to serve as such. Their ability to represent people who elected them, conceptions how to improve life in Ukraine and devotion to country are doubtful. Why should we think who of them will have their way with the other or the others? We should think of how can we find and elect people who will really represent us in government or parliament. (Or maybe how to remove wrong people from the power.) The conclusion is that the problem stated above is irrelevant.

The point here is not a relevance, but suspension of Ukrainian membership in the Council of Europe (CE). If a person believes that the CE is not all of Europe, then that person relies on the part of Europe which would not be a member of the CE. What would be a such part? Ukraine doesn't need top officials who unable keeping it in the CE, and it is better for those officials to resign timely to not be punished later.

KIEV (Reuters) - Senior Ukrainian officials dismissed Monday Western calls to postpone a referendum on expanding the powers of President Leonid Kuchma at the expense of parliament.
Kuchma, reelected to a second five-year term in November, says Sunday's vote, consisting of four questions, is intended to enable him to push ahead with market reforms, which he says have been stalled by parliament.

The Council of Europe last week said the referendum violated the former Soviet republic's constitution and threatened to consider suspension if Kuchma did not delay the vote.

The spat has taken place against the background of economic crisis and mass poverty in Ukraine, which has failed to prosper since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Kuchma and top officials have denounced the resolution by the Council, which has few powers but wields moral authority.

"This is nothing other than an offensive against our constitutional process and an appeal to Ukrainians to abandon politics," Stepan Havrysh, deputy speaker of parliament, told a news conference.

A weekend news program on state television showed an irritated Kuchma berating members of a Ukrainian delegation to the Council who backed the resolution on the referendum.

"The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe is not all of Europe," Kuchma said.

Opinion polls show voters back three questions -- to cut the number of deputies, remove their right to immunity from prosecution and empower the president to dismiss the assembly if it fails to pass a budget or form a majority grouping.

There is no such backing for a fourth question on creating a second chamber to represent the interests of Ukraine's regions.

Volodymyr Lytvyn, Kuchma's chief of staff, said the referendum is being called at the initiative of four million voters, while the president's leftist opponents say the campaign to collect signatures was riddled with fraud.

: Problem # 2. Should Ukrainian be the only state language?
: Solution: So far The Constitution states that it is. This stays until a large part of Ukrainian population will ask their representative to start legal process of changing The Constitution. For now the problem does not exist.
: Problem # 3. Should we unite with Russia?

To have a status of Chechnya and be involved into permanent wars?

: Solution: See solution to Problem 3.
: Problem # 4 Do Europe and US qualify us as democratic country.

No. By now Ukraine is considered as a country of non-market economy. The country is ruling by former communists who are unable to manage in a global competitive environment.

: Solution: People do not get wages. Food is scarce. Education, health care, army and industry are in ruins. Until we solve these problems (at least partially) the Europe and US may think whatever they want or can. We ourselves know all the answers.
: Thanks for you attention.




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