[aaus-list] [ukrainians] Re: URGENT: Ukrainian Exclusivity in Holodomor? (fwd)

Max Pyziur pyz at brama.com
Fri Nov 21 07:07:49 EST 2008


fyi,

MP
pyz at brama.com

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:45:12 -0000
From: Aleks Kalashnik <sanya3 at hotmail.com>
Reply-To: ukrainians at yahoogroups.com
To: ukrainians at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ukrainians] Re: URGENT: Ukrainian Exclusivity in Holodomor?



Vadim,

I would strongly recommend the legal analysis by Yevhen Zakharov of
the Khakiv Human Rights Protection group:

Opinion: Legal classification of Holodomor 1932-1933 in Ukraine and
in Kuban as a crime against humanity and genocide
http://www.khpg.org.ua/en/index.php?id=1221299499

The basic fact is that due to the rolling back of free-maket NEP
policies of the 1920s and forced mass-collectivization, shortages and
famines broke out all over the territory of the former Soviet Union
in the 1930s. However, only in Ukraine did it take on the nature of a
crime, because every shred of food was requisitioned from every
village house, and Ukraine's border was cordoned off to prevent
Ukrainians from leaving Ukraine's territory in search of food.

As far as targeting of ethnic Ukrainians is concerned, it's very
simple. While there were many ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine (who
largely came there in late 19th, early 20th century because of the
rapid industrialization of the region), they were overwhelmingly
workers (not peasants) and lived overwhelmingly in the cities, which
were not targeted by Stalin's policies. Hence, Ukrainians were
targeted almost exclusively by definition.

Aleks

Ukraine Blog
http://ukraineblogg.blogspot.com/



--- In ukrainians at yahoogroups.com, Vadim <solar75wind at ...> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> Could you please point me to reliable sources on Ukraine's
exclusivity
> in Holodomor?
>
> Two of my grandfather's siblings died in Holodomor, yet I want to
have
> an objective view of Holodomor. Yushchenko insists Holodomor was
> exclusive to Ukraine and it was the deliberate genocide of
Ukrainians.
> Medvedev says the famine was a tool for collectivization, not
> exclusive to Ukraine.
>
> IMPORTANT: My deceased grandfather, whose family and himself lived
in
> Poltava region and suffered severely from Holodomor, told me in
> mid-1990 that the purpose of it was to eliminate private
agricultural
> farms and create collective farms. People of all ethnicities
suffered.
> He and his sister walked to Kharkov by feet to survive and ate tree
> bark. He spoke to many people and saw the magnitude of starvation.
He
> never mentioned people of Russian origin get preferential treatment
> and blamed it all on Stalin and NKVD. That is, his version fully
> supports Medvedev's version.
>
> English version of Wikipedia rather stands by non-exclusivity
version:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
>
> It mentions only one historian, Raphael Lemkin, who developed the
term
> "genocide" and supported the genocide version in Holodomor:
> The Jewish-Polish scholar Raphael Lemkin developed the concept and
> coined the term "genocide" and applied it to the destruction of the
> Ukrainian nation and not just Ukrainian peasants. In his work
written
> in the 1950's titled "History of Genocide" he specificlly included
> includes a chapter on "Soviet Genocide in the Ukraine". Lemkin's
> concept includes: a) the decimation of the Ukrainian national
elites,
> b) destruction of the Orthodox Church, c) the starvation of the
> Ukrainian farming population, and d) its replacement with
> non-Ukrainian population from the RSFSR as integral components of
the
> same genocidal process. The only dimension that is missing in
Lemkin's
> excellent analysis is the destruction of the 8,000,000 ethnic
> Ukrainians living on the eve of the genocide in the Russian Republic
> (RSFSR).
>
> Robert Conquest and his followers maintained that Holodomor had been
> caused by industrialization and collectivization, not genocide.
>
> Now, Yushchenko said today that by not accepting the genocide
version
> and not attending the 75-year commemoration of Holodomor (genocide
> version is the official one in Ukraine), Russian President Dmitry
> Medvedev "humiliated millions of victims".
>
> Do you have any solid sources that support Yushchenko's exclusivity,
> i.e. genocide, version? Based on the sources I mentioned above, this
> seems to be an exploit for political reasons.
>
> Vadim
>



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