Fwd: [aaus-list] Obama and Ukraine??

[stephen velychenko]

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From: stephen velychenko <velychen at chass.utoronto.ca>
Date: Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [aaus-list] Obama gives a landmark speech in Berlin (CNN Video)
To: Vadim <solar75wind at gmail.com>
Cc: drdenny324 at excite.com


Because "Israel-Gaza" and unregulated untaxed capital flows define
world politics and these are the issues kyivan politicians and our
Ukrainian specialists abroad must
deal with. Not vacuous statements about "braterstvo."

1. Occupation = arab hate of israel and all supporters = excuse for US
war in mid east = rationale for continuation of US mil-industrial
complex and the de facto termination of the US CONST and rule of law
by the "Patriot
Act".
2. Saudi support for anti-israel fundamentalists = US mistrust of
Saudis' = war in Iraq/Iran to control alternative oil source = secure influence
over Japan and China whose oil mainly from mid-east = secure billion
dollars daily loans from them because US is bankrupt.
3. no regulation over capital flows = democratically elected and other
gov subject to policy dictates by unelected bankers and financiers who
withdraw capital if dislike policies = cuts or abolition of public
education, public health care, social services, environmental control
etc etc = shutdown manufacturing jobs in dev countries with pensions
min wage laws and unions for skilled adults, for walmarts/macdonalds
with part-time non union jobs for unskilled adolescents. Rise in crime
by unemployed, meanwhile, big profits for private corporations who
now given gov subsidies to run prisons.
4 US gov subsidies to US food corp allows to export food to third
world so cheap that undersells local farmers in third world =
disspossession either  to plantations to farm cash crops for export
but don't get paid enough to buy food, or swell urban slums where also
don't get paid = hunger despite rising profits for the food
corporations like CARGILL ,

All this, in turn, defines the international division of labour, in
which Ukr has its place, and which leads to ukrainians selling junk
from  boxes on streetcorners to make ends meet.
What will Obama rubbish about brotherhood
change in all this?? If anyone can make these links better than me
please do. If not, lets not hear anymore about US elections on this
list.

On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Vadim <solar75wind at gmail.com> wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> At first sight, Obama may seem unimportant for Ukraine. For anyone who
> follows Obama closely, however, it is obvious that he carries a
> transformative message for the world -- a 21st century philosophy of
> close interconnectedness, dialogue, and common search for harmony, as
> well as many sharp ethical issues that virtually all politicians pay a
> lip service to. All these issues are of paramount importance for
> Ukraine. I am frankly puzzled as to why you reduce the phenomenon of
> Obama to Israel-Gaza and capital flows.
>
> Vadim
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 1:54 PM, stephen velychenko
> <velychen at chass.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>> Correct. This is irrelevant to UKR STUDIES -- except inso far as somebody
>> would care to analyze how Obama, who pledges continued total support for
>> Israel occupation of west bank and continued unregulated untaxed
>> international capital-flows, will change anything that influences Ukrainian
>> issues.
>>
>> On 7/26/08, OSD <drdenny324 at excite.com> wrote:
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Stephen Velychenko
CERES Associate;
Research Fellow,Chair of Ukrainian Studies;
Munk Center
University of Toronto
Devonshire Place
Toronto M5S 3K7



-- 
Stephen Velychenko
CERES Associate;
Research Fellow,Chair of Ukrainian Studies;
Munk Center
University of Toronto
Devonshire Place
Toronto M5S 3K7